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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
margaret Aug 16, 2018 5:38 PM (in response to ohst8er)You just never really can tell who will be the partiers. I had a "church retreat" group of 5 ladies in their 50-60's that left my place littered with food and alcohol bottles, no real damage but a mess. I had another group for a "mom's getaway" 6 women all in their mid thirties who left the place spotless. The group I was worried about I would be happy to have back anytime, the church ladies not so much.
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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
twobitrentals Aug 18, 2018 10:57 AM (in response to margaret)Wondering if it was really a church retreat, or if they told you that so that you wouldn’t hesitate in letting them stay. Not saying that church ladies can’t be messy, but just think about it....if someone can lie about occupancy limits (as some of us deal with) why not lie about the reason you are coming So that your party will be immediately sound acceptable to an owner. We are dealing with some really different guests these days.
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ohst8er Aug 18, 2018 11:22 AM (in response to twobitrentals)twobitrentals, Don't most "confessionals" ultimately involve alot of wine consumption?
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margaret Aug 18, 2018 11:38 AM (in response to twobitrentals)Possibly, but they left behind some brochures with info. about their church. I tend to think they were on a church retreat but decide to have add a little partying as well. They weren't the worst guests but they did leave a lot of garbage behind and spilled sticky frozen drinks all over the counters
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twobitrentals Aug 18, 2018 11:55 AM (in response to margaret)Well, I would say you were right then! So no group is immune from being “bad” guests. They should have been ashamed....especially at their age.......guess the retreat didn’t work!!!!!!! LOL (sure didn’t do unto others)
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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
hmmmm Aug 16, 2018 6:06 PM (in response to ohst8er)Your instincts are not wrong.
And I would point blank ask them?
If you are near the property and cannot check, then tell them you have a neighbor who checks the property for you.
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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
sonenalpmammoth Aug 16, 2018 6:24 PM (in response to ohst8er)Sometimes I kick them to the curb right away.
Other times, I respond with something like: "Before I accept your reservation I just want to make sure that you are ok with our House Rules requiring no partying and quiet hours between 8pm-9am? Our HOA is quiet and family oriented and I wouldn't want the vibe here to mean that you can't have the kind of trip that you are planning. Will our quiet hours and no-party policy be an issue? If so, we should probably try to find a different property so you can have the trip you really want."
I actually have had quite a few groups back out when I sent them that message...
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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
ashevillelookout Aug 17, 2018 7:54 AM (in response to sonenalpmammoth)I am very fortunate to have a neighbor who acts as my "security resident". Mentioning that this person is available in an emergency and implying that they are close by (on site) has led to several cancellations by groups who evidently intended to party and did not want to be observed breaking the house rules.
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hmmmm Aug 17, 2018 11:36 AM (in response to ashevillelookout)Perfect
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hmmmm Aug 17, 2018 11:37 AM (in response to sonenalpmammoth)Great work, and I do the same and yes have people changed their minds to find a place where they can get away with what they need to get away with.
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ohst8er Aug 18, 2018 9:27 AM (in response to ohst8er)I don't have anyone who is close to keep an eye on things. I did have someone nextdoor, but she has since moved and I have not yet met the new next door neighbors.
I've left two messages for this traveler so far, a couple days ago and just now. I added a few "initial here" things in my agreement, next to places that I want to make sure she sees about parties and noise and etc., I also mentioned in my VM about no parties etc., and also mentioned in my email with the rental agreement attached that we do not entertain parties, if you feel we are not the location for you please do reach back and we will fully refund (I'm happy to go against my own cxl policy on this one if necessary). They don't come in till the first weekend in November, and we don't typically book heavy during that time period anyway, so we have time to let this shake out.
I don't like having to be presumptuous or heavy handed with people, I feel like I'm convicting them before they even commit a crime, however I've seen enough on this forum that I'm being cautious. TBD
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margaret Aug 18, 2018 9:38 AM (in response to ohst8er)If possible have conversation with the guest by phone. I think I get a better feel for people when we have spoken rather than emailing. I think speaking with guests also helps them to understand there is a real person who owns the property and it is someone's home so they take better care of it.
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Re: How do you best ferret out a guest who might actually be coming to party?
ohst8er Aug 18, 2018 9:43 AM (in response to margaret)margaret, yep, agreed. I'm the gatekeeper. This guest will not get a code without my say so if I don't feel comfy with them. And I won't feel comfy until we speak. And if it means I have to cxl and take the ding I will. I've got time to wait this out. If this were me and 3 of my like minded friends, there would be wine and some music, but not an out of control drink fest.
But I have a few friends who drink like sailors when they are let loose..... Love them, but ..........
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theresarowan777 Nov 24, 2018 7:19 AM (in response to ohst8er)Hope this isn't too old of a post to help someone concerning not having someone close by to monitor actions at your home. I use Ring Doorbell and also have stick up cams around outside of the house, so I am able to view activities outside the house if there are indications that things are going on that shouldn't be. Of course it needs to be mentioned in your listing there are security cameras on the outside of the house.
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ohst8er Nov 26, 2018 12:00 PM (in response to theresarowan777)theresarowan777, yep, we have Ring doorbell too. I do mention it in our rental agreement. This group turned out to be perfectly behaved!
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