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  • Contributor 34 posts since
    Feb 19, 2012
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    1,155. Apr 11, 2012 1:07 PM (in response to crazyknits)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    We are shooting for death by committee. I think it's not impossible...

     

    Meera Kohler

    Sent from my iPhone

  • Contributor 26 posts since
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    1,156. Apr 11, 2012 5:20 PM (in response to crazyknits)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    Good points Crazyknits.....

     

    And all concerned owners (local or not, PM or not) shoould consider joining and supporting the Rental By Owner Awareness Association.

     

    http://www.rboaa.org

     

    They are the first group that has succesfuly organized to protect the rights and interests of all TVR property owners.

     

    For those that don't already know RBOAA have retained an attorney in Hawaii (DAMON KEY LEONG KUPCHAK HASTERT) and have drafted a 6 page Memorandum re: Legal Challenges to Hawaii HB No. 2078 and SB No. 2947

     

    We need this type of information in the hands of the Attorney General and Governors office ASAP.

     

    Please cosnider joining RBOAA as soon as you can....It will be much less expensive to fight this now than after it has been signed into law.

  • Contributor 39 posts since
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    1,157. Apr 11, 2012 1:44 PM (in response to islandadventures)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

     

    I am writing the check today.  Thanks for all the hard work!

  • Contributor 49 posts since
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    1,158. Apr 11, 2012 1:52 PM (in response to sodamo)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    We still have the opportunity to influence the outcome of this. My personal attempt will be to talk to as many legislators as possible pointing out that these bills will harm many small businesses and possibly put many of them out of business and that leads to less tax revenue in a tax strapped state. I want to focus on the finance committee. If the House and Senate do not agree, no compromise bill will emerge and the bill will die. Long term, the issue comes up again so we need to stress how these bills as currently drafted destroy small business and get the small business proponents to help us. We need to show how we are helping the economy in Hawaii, how we are providing a great service the tourist trade. We need to convince the legislators we are providing a valuable service to the state and they need to protect us, not harm us. The telephone is a great communication vehicle for non- resident owners. E-mail gets dumped and you never know if your message was ever received. As each of us visits Hawaii, schedule a day to talk to the legislators. Lobby By Owner

     

     

     

    Crazyknits

  • Contributor 49 posts since
    Feb 21, 2012
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    1,159. Apr 11, 2012 1:53 PM (in response to sodamo)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    We still have the opportunity to influence the outcome of this. My personal attempt will be to talk to as many legislators as possible pointing out that these bills will harm many small businesses and possibly put many of them out of business and that leads to less tax revenue in a tax strapped state. I want to focus on the finance committee. If the House and Senate do not agree, no compromise bill will emerge and the bill will die. Long term, the issue comes up again so we need to stress how these bills as currently drafted destroy small business and get the small business proponents to help us. We need to show how we are helping the economy in Hawaii, how we are providing a great service the tourist trade. We need to convince the legislators we are providing a valuable service to the state and they need to protect us, not harm us. The telephone is a great communication vehicle for non- resident owners. E-mail gets dumped and you never know if your message was ever received. As each of us visits Hawaii, schedule a day to talk to the legislators. Lobby By Owner

     

     

     

    Crazyknits

  • Contributor 144 posts since
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    1,160. Apr 11, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to crazyknits)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    You do know that this session of the legislature ends on May 5th, don't you?  I have no plans to visit Maui for the next 6 months.  By then it will be too late.  It may be too late in a month....

  • Contributor 49 posts since
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    1,161. Apr 11, 2012 5:32 PM (in response to mvaughn)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    Possibly this bill dies in committee. We work on next year and head this off at the pass.

  • jwe Contributor 284 posts since
    Feb 18, 2012
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    1,162. Apr 11, 2012 5:41 PM (in response to crazyknits)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    That certainly sounds encouraging but is totally unexpected.

     

    Which bill and which committee?

    What would cause it to die?

  • Contributor 49 posts since
    Feb 21, 2012
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    1,163. Apr 11, 2012 5:52 PM (in response to jwe)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    If the Senate and House can’t come up with compromise wording for the bill perhaps it dies…HB2078. Both House & Senate have to vote on the final bill so everyone has sole searching to do. Senator Slom told me not to give up. I plan on calling as many legislators as I can, probably not Baker though. I will emphasize the harm to small business and not emphasize the discrimination. Perhaps the Attorney General will stop the bill because of the obvious illegality. If not….

  • New Member 9 posts since
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    1,164. Apr 11, 2012 9:27 PM (in response to crazyknits)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    Several bloggers appear to be confused about how bills pass through the Hawaii State Legislature.

    For those who seek enlightenment, see a clear explanation on the usual route of passage on the link to the Hawaii Legislators Handbook:

    http://hawaii.gov/lrb/hndbook/hbk6.html

     

    Another blogger did not appear to understand what will happen after the RBOAA (Rental By Owner Awareness Association. http://www.rboaa.org)

    takes legal action and defeats the bill in court. The bill is then overturned by the court. This ends the process. The court does not turn around and try to rewrite or amend the bill.

  • Contributor 39 posts since
    Feb 21, 2012
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    1,165. Apr 11, 2012 10:56 PM (in response to pinkertonagent)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    @jive, so one of the things that I am seeing from glancing over this publication

    is that the Attorney General is not the next person to evaluate the bill before

    going to the Governor.  So the assumption is that he has already reviewed it and

    found it constitutional?!!!!

     Gail Baker

    Discount Window Coverings

    530-587-5577

    discountwindowcoverings.hdspd.com

  • californiaamy Contributor 36 posts since
    Feb 21, 2012
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    1,166. Apr 12, 2012 12:12 AM (in response to fairwayshomeowner)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    Correct, the AG is not the next person to review the bill.  I believe at this point, because both houses have seen the bill, even if the governor did nothing and the legislature adjourned, the bill would become law. The number of days depends on how many days before the end of the legislature it is "presented" to the governor. So the governor has to veto the bill at this point.

    The AG has a whole division to review legislative laws, but when they do this, I don't know.

    From the Hawaii AG site:

    The Legislative Division provides legal services on matters pertaining to legislation and to proposed administrative rules.  The division coordinates the preparation and review of all legislative bills proposed by the executive branch agencies and coordinates the review, monitoring, and evaluation of all legislative bills during and after each session of the Legislature.  In addition, the division coordinates, monitors, and reviews the preparation of administrative rules of the Department of the Attorney General.  This division also performs the final review of the formal opinions issued by the Attorney General and performs the initial review of complaints involving the Sunshine Law.

  • kbr402 Contributor 28 posts since
    Jul 25, 2011
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    1,167. Apr 12, 2012 8:39 AM (in response to californiaamy)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    There has been a lot of conflicting discussion as to what happens next.  We are contacting Hawaii today to get an exact agenda and contact list.  As soon as we have that information we will publish it. 

     

    For more up to date information and progress please join the FB group:

     

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/194035220703875/225797647527632/?notif_t=group_activity

  • New Member 14 posts since
    Apr 2, 2012
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    1,168. Apr 12, 2012 12:27 PM (in response to kbr402)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    Check out this newsletter from "Maui's Next Genreation of Realtors" for a gross misrepresentation of the Canadian perspective on HB2078.  Go to: http://mauihomeandcondo.com/update-on-hb-2078-sd-2/2012/04/

     

    The offensive wording:

     

    "Speaking of education, one of the most interesting, perhaps amusing parts of this discussion is the complaint raised by Canadian owners of Hawaii vacation rentals that the requirement that they pay TAT or have an on-island representative somehow is a violation of the North American Fair Trade Agreement (NAFTA)."

     

    Canadians and fellow off-islanders, this kind of distortion of testimony deserves a strong response and rebuke.

  • kbr402 Contributor 28 posts since
    Jul 25, 2011
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    1,169. Apr 12, 2012 9:08 AM (in response to off-islander)
    Re: Hawaii Trying to Kill VRBO

    I am going to take a deep breath and wait at least one hour before I submit a comment to that.

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