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  • lorraine.mcgill Contributor 30 posts since
    Feb 24, 2011
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    75. Jun 5, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I think you can spot these things right away just from the poor grammar and punctuation. The ones that I don't catch at first are always caught on their reply when they say something like, "my agent in the United States will submit the funds," etc. I usually reply to these with an email full of expletives that basically tells them to get a life and that they are going to hell for trying to con innocent people. I obviously never hear back. It's also been a while since I've received one so maybe they've taken me of their list. :-)

  • New Member 8 posts since
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    76. Jun 18, 2012 10:08 AM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I'm afraid I got that one too. Beware of Irka GXXXXXX <gXXXXXXX8@hotmail.com> also known as John TXXXX SXXXXX

    I reported him with the FBI. I wish VRBO would warn us. if they can send e-mails advertising they can send warnings

  • Contributor 233 posts since
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    77. Jun 18, 2012 10:07 AM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Add this one to the list: dXXXXXX01@hotmail.com , Mrs Valya PXXXXX

      XX Uchebunaya St , 82309 kiev, Ukraine.
  • lrbaldwin Active Contributor 754 posts since
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    78. Jun 18, 2012 10:54 AM (in response to romy)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    "I wish VRBO would warn us. if they can send e-mails advertising they can send warnings"

     

    I think it is our own responibility to determine whether an inquiry is legitimate.  I certainly don't want VRBO to make that kind of decision for me.

     

    Linda

  • New Member 8 posts since
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    79. Jun 18, 2012 11:22 AM (in response to lrbaldwin)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Vrbo actually doesn't forward inquiries coming from e- mails that have been reported to be scams, so they are making that kind of decision for you. That's why this crook from Ukraine always gets a new e-mail address. What I meant is that I wish they could send a warning as the kind of scams going on.

    Romy

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    80. Jun 18, 2012 11:24 AM (in response to romy)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Hi Romy:

     

    VRBO/HA has issued many warnings via email, in this community, etc. And we all (homeowners) are issuing warnings through this community. As with any business, as owners we must be on top of what is going on in the environment around us. You have done the right thing participating, learning and contributing to the community of owners.

     

    Lets keep fighting these criminals that are affecting the reputation of the industry.

     

    Gabriel

    www.Pochomilbeach.com

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    81. Jun 18, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    This post proves one thing, that we live in a world where technology is being used for our benefit but brings new threats that we must deal with. Just like cars en early 20th century were very convenient, over time risks of high speed, no airbags or seatbelts, texting & driving, DUI, etc have affected us all, but we keep driving, just a bit more careful and with better vehicles.

     

    With technology we can make rentals, get paid electronically and live thousands of miles away from the property. But we will get scammers, fake reservations, false checks, web pages that copy our ads and collect the money from unsuspecting guests, etc and we have to be smarter than the crooks to protect ourselves. I am sure Homeaway is working hard to find ways to protect partially from the threats, but we must do our part to complete the circle of protection.

     


  • New Member 8 posts since
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    82. Jun 18, 2012 12:35 PM (in response to gabriel)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I've filed an IC3, FBI and Interpol report. I'm also communicating with his bank to have his account closed. I just can't believe he's been doing it for 2 years in total impunity. very upsetting.

  • New Member 8 posts since
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    83. Jun 18, 2012 12:38 PM (in response to gabriel)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I know. I've been renting my house for 3 years and this is the first time I get scammed. the pill is hard to swallow and I'm fighting back. Bank of America actually recognized their mistake (they credited my account with the foreign fraudulent check...Duh!!!) but I want this crook stopped and I won't stop until his account is frozen.

  • New Member 6 posts since
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    84. Jun 18, 2012 12:40 PM (in response to romy)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    If the guy has any smarts he's probably monitoring this thread

  • New Member 7 posts since
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    85. Jun 18, 2012 3:56 PM (in response to lrbaldwin)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I don't think a warning about something as specific as this would be considered as VRBO telling us what to do!

     

    Sent from my iPad

  • lrbaldwin Active Contributor 754 posts since
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    86. Jun 18, 2012 4:50 PM (in response to kareninca)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I guess I don't understand what these warnings would be.  I can't imagine that they could keep abreast of every scheme that goes on in the on line rental industry, especially not specific ones. In any case, whatever time they devote to something like that, we're going to be paying for it.  I'd just like to have everything that HA/VRBO is already offering to work correctly.  I don't like to see anyone victimized by con artists, but there's bound to be a limit to what HA can do.

     

    Linda

  • New Member 2 posts since
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    87. Jun 18, 2012 5:22 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Hi all,

    I am really glad to see this discussion.  We have a rental request for Oct 20-27, 2012 from Anyutochka Businska in Kiev, Ukraine.  The lack of detail in the inital request bothered me, but I responded and received this reply. What do you think?  Fraudulent or real?  Have any of you asked for a cashier's check from an international bank?  Would that even help? 

    I'll appreciate your thoughts on this.  I haven't yet responded to the below email.

    Debby Atkinson

     

     

    Hello

        

    Thanks for the updated information.

    We are okay with the accommodation and cost .

    we would also like to confirm  the reservation on the following information:

       - Mrs  Anyutochka Businka

          

       14/12   Alexseeva street, 81239 kiev, Ukraine.

        

        Also , due to the unsecured use of credit card online or on the phone, I have arrange for payment inform of check

       

     

        Please do forward me the following details for payment

        

        

        FULL NAME

        BILLING ADDRESS

        CONTACT TELEPHONE NUMBER

        

        

        Hope to hear from you soon

        

        Regards

     

    Anyutochka Businka

  • mauioceanview Contributor 250 posts since
    Jul 22, 2011
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    88. Jun 18, 2012 5:46 PM (in response to deborah.atkinson)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Sorry Deborah, that looks like a few scam emails I've gotten. Except that she's not mentioned the accountant she's routing everything through yet.

     

    I feel like I should add something to this conversation, I have this past year had two successful bookings from Eastern European countries, one from the Czech Republic, another from Romania. I was hesitant on both counts because of the Eastern European scam attempts, but the inquiries were different than above. I actually phoned both of them (check your time differences before you do) and was fortunate that both spoke English. The payments went through well (both paid by credit card through VRBO's reservation system) and both took very good care of the condos, no complaints from the cleaners. One of the guests asked to meet me, and since I live close by, I went over and we had a nice visit.

     

    So, moral of my story - be careful and do your homework! And don't write off all potential guests from Eastern Europe because of a couple of scammers. Good luck everyone!

  • Contributor 36 posts since
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    89. Jun 18, 2012 5:52 PM (in response to deborah.atkinson)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    100% SCAM! Don't bother responding. "We are OK with accomodation and cost" and "due to unsecured use of credit card online..." is a dead giveaway. I have received several with the same or very similar wording. Again, don't even bother.

     

    Sussi

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