Reasonable legislation should always be passed.

Unreasonable legislation should never be passed.

If there are unreasonable components to this year's legislation we should

not hope it will be passed to keep the property managers,  unions and

legislators who support them at bay.

If they get a taste of blood this year, they will surely be back next year

for flesh.  And even if they do not get a taste of blood this year they will

likely be back.

We certainly should not be throwing them a bone in the hope of satisfying

them.

They have declared a war on non-resident property owners and the local

people who service them, such as maintenance, cleaning and contractors.  We

need to uncover as much information on their activities and get it into the

media.

The Hawaiian people deserve to know the facts - unwise legislation it will

cost them jobs, visitors and tax revenue, and it will only benefit property

managers and unions.

We will turn our attention to PR after the legislature "season" ends next

week.

Many bills that the legislature, property managers and unions have proposed

and supported are unfavorable to the majority of the local people and voters

and we need to focus on their perspective.

Politicians are not well regarded in general, but we do not want to be

perceived as  "our of towners" attacking their politicians.    (because if

that happens they may choose to come to the support of their politicians ).

However we need to point out some of the things that the politicians and

groups with vested interests propose are in fact harmful to the local people

and majority of taxpayers..

We also need to support what is fair.  If TVR's do require more resources

for trash pick up (and I am not saying that they do - but rather we should

look at the real facts)  then we should NOT fight that. 

We need to be reasonable on items that make sense from the point of view of

the local people.  They are, and should be, the ones making the decagons and

we need to respect that.    We just need to make sure they have good

information to make those decisions and counter the mis-information that

those with vested intersts put out.

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But also need to stand very firm on items that do not make sense or are

unconstitutional.  We should not shirk from pursuing legal action if

necessary.  And we should not hesitate to expose the dirty laundry of

politicians or vested interest groups who are using underhanded attacks on

us or brandishing mis-information.

They will meet to reconcile SB2947 again today, so contact these folks again:

4/26/2012SConference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-27-12  9:45AM in conference room 423.

blackburied wrote:

 

They will meet again today:

 

4/25/2012

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Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-26-12 1:15PM in conference room 423.

 

blackburied wrote:

 

Don't forget SB2947 reconciliation reconvenes today:

 

4/19/2012

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Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-25-12 1:00PM in conference room 423.

 

Here is the contact info for those in the meeting:

 

Phone	Fax	Name	email
808-586-6160	808-586-6161	Representative McKelvey Angus L.K. (D)	repmckelvey@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-6210	808-586-6211	Representative Keith-Agaran Gilbert S.C. (D)	repkeithagaran@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-8475	808-586-8479	Representative Choy Isaac W. (D)	repchoy@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-6310	808-586-6311	Representative Marumoto Barbara C. (R)	repmarumoto@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-6890	808-586-6899	Senator Fukunaga Carol  (D)	senfukunaga@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-6230	808-586-6231	Senator Ige David Y. (D)	sendige@capitol.hawaii.gov
808-586-8420	808-586-8426	Senator Slom Sam  (R)	senslom@capitol.hawaii.gov

 

My SWAG is they are determined to find agreement on this bill before the end of session.

This just in ... Conference Committee unanimously recommends that HB 2078 HD2 SD 2 be passed with amendments.  No details as of the time of this posting on what is included in the amendments.

I'm a bit puzzled by section F:

(f)  The registration identification number issued pursuant to section 237D-4 shall be provided on a website or by online link and displayed in all advertisements and solicitations on websites regarding transient accommodations for which the registration number is issued.

... there are no penalties nor assignment of blame for infractions.  Think of two instances in particular:

1. A bait-and-switch site that shows pics of your TVR, but is actually trying to sell theirs.  There are a couple of instances of this for me, and I'm sure they would be as unwilling to put a link in that advertising to my home page as they are to remove references to my condo.
2. Craig's List phishermen from Eastern Europe who place adds for rental units (usually at the Honolulu page), including our pics, but are only intent on taking guests money.

I would think host sites (the person owning the domain name) should require the advertising to contain the proper link and be liable if not... but the bill is not specific on any recourse for violation.

crazyknits wrote:

 

I sent this link to  rep Tokioka asking for help with this. He has been good at responding to me since my condo is in his district. We need to stay on top of this stuff.

I think in the end that they just can't regulate the Internet, and can only pick-on owners... they will have a needle-ridden haystack of web pages that will not have our ID's nor links to our web page with ID's, and will initially blame us, then realize these are not under our control, and eventually give-up trying to find tax cheats using the web-based tax ID methodology. I had hopes that this would clean-up some of the scams, but now think it will happen only at reputable web sites.

crazyblogger wrote:

 

Very interesting bill.  I think the property managers think it is good for them and I think we think it is good for us (I am still a bit leary).   Given that, I think the politicians played their cards well.

... and we may not have seen their entire hand yet.

sjsf wrote:

 

...She said “No, you are concern about illegal businesses being identified”. She went on to tell me that all Tax licenses are public information on the web and all property owners and their addresses are also on government websites already. ...

It is public, we can look-up ourselves here: https://dotax.ehawaii.gov/tls/app