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  • lorraine.mcgill Contributor 30 posts since
    Feb 24, 2011
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    45. Feb 16, 2012 2:17 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Got a new one today. Same inquiry for two separate properties. Both were accepted with the same exact response. I've copied below so you can beware.

     

    I replied to both with quite a few obcentities that I'll spare you. LOL

     

     

     

    I suspected this was a scam from the beginning because the person didn't capitalize their name. I know it's small and simple, but who doesn't capitalize their name? Of course, the reply and Ukraine address sealed the deal.

     

     

    As far as spotting them goes, my next big clue is when there are an abundance of typos or very poor grammar and punctuation. I'm sorry, but if you're not a scammer and can't form a complete sentence then maybe I just don't want to trust you with my house anyway.

     

     

    Another clue is when they use words that are strange. For instance, I had someone refer to my home as a "facility." That just doesn't make sense. Lastly, I had someone email me their credit card information once. I did a little research and contacted the credit card company first and they said that there was a hold on the account due to suspicious activity. Again, if you're not a scammer but stupid enough to email me your credit card number, then maybe I shouldn't be trusting you with my home. But let's face it... they are ALWAYS scammers.

     

     

    What a waste of our time! Is there anything VRBO can do to reduce this? What about those scramble word codes that you have to enter? Aren't those supposed to reduce scamming?

     

    From: stevan sXXXc [mailto:sXXXXXXXXXXXX20@hotmail.com]
    Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:35 AM

    Thanks for the updated information.

    We are okay with the accommodation and cost  . I would also like to confirm the reservation .

    Our information is as follows

    Name : Mr & Mrs SXXXc

    Address :171 Tanuma yulia

    Odessa Ukraine

    65000

    I will arrange for check/draft payment drawn from a local bank in your country .

    Please do forward me the following details for payment

    FULL NAME

    BILLING ADDRESS (not P.O.box )

    CONTACT/MOBILE TELEPHONE NUMBER

    Hope to hear from you soon

    Stevan.

  • anja Senior Contributor 1,560 posts since
    Aug 9, 2011
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    46. Feb 12, 2012 12:11 AM (in response to lorraine.mcgill)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    This type of inquiry is 'old'...it's been around...we all get them.  I delete them, right away  I would never send a response.  Frankly, what I believe is a waste of time is responding to such an inquiry.

  • lorraine.mcgill Contributor 30 posts since
    Feb 24, 2011
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    47. Feb 12, 2012 12:19 AM (in response to anja)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I suppose I should have mentioned that aside from the lowercase name, there was nothing suspicous about the original inquiry that would dissuade me from replying (no message, just regular fields filled in). It was their reply that indicated that it was obviously a scammer. At this point, they already have my email address so I see no harm in telling them what low-life losers they are and that they should get a life with a few explitives thrown in there for emphasis. It's my little source of satisfaction for the time they caused me to waste preparing the original quote.

  • New Member 1 posts since
    Feb 13, 2012
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    48. Feb 13, 2012 11:57 AM (in response to tommyc)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Thank you...got this response last night and it seemed a bit off....thank you to everyone on here for the great information and help!!!

  • New Member 3 posts since
    Feb 15, 2012
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    49. Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    We recently had a reservation made by a Lisa HXXXXXXn. The first odd thing about the reservation was an area code for her phone number that didn’t exist in the United States. Repeated queries about where area code 546 was went unanswered. Then a sequence of odd things happened. She told me a check would be coming from her travel department but that they had inadvertently sent me her entire expense check. She asked me to Western Union the difference back to her (with instructions) upon receipt. A personal check came from a man named Frederick PXXXXXXn in an envelope with no return address and no reference to our vacation rental. I held the check for a couple of days wondering what it was for. In the meantime, Lisa HXXXXXXn is emailing me everyday asking if a check came on her behalf. I mentioned that a check did come, but I didn’t know if it was on her behalf. She named the maker of the check without any provocation on my part. I deposited the check and told her I’d have to wait for it to clear before sending her any money back. In the meantime, I’m feeling uncomfortable about this whole thing. She said I had to Western Union the difference back ASAP and that it was urgent, but now she wanted me to wire the money to another place, in the Philippines. I consulted an attorney and he said I shouldn’t honor this check for payment of the vacation rental without specific written instructions from the maker of the check. When I made this request, it was ignored and then there was silence. In the meantime, it appeared the check had cleared my account and I was getting ready to refund the entire amount back to the maker (and the address on the check) when my bank notified me that the check didn’t go through after all because the maker’s account was closed. The check was not refused. It did not bounce. The account was closed. Please be aware of a Lisa HXXXXXXn looking to rent your place in Mount Shasta. The reservation was for 1 adult and 2 children from 2/26-2/29.

  • New Member 2 posts since
    Mar 4, 2012
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    50. Mar 4, 2012 10:54 AM (in response to lorraine.mcgill)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I received this exact same request (including this exact same address) from Molen Huligan!   Today I received another request with no verbiage, but a Ukraine phone #.  I do not plan to even answer the request.

  • New Member 3 posts since
    Feb 15, 2012
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    51. Mar 4, 2012 6:14 PM (in response to maryr)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Thanks for sharing!

     

     

     

    Lela and Steve

     

     

     

    Check out our website:

     

     

     

    http://houseofbassandlilies.com <http://houseofbassandlilies.com/>

     

     

     

    And for weather conditions:

     

     

     

    http://www.snowcrest.net/camera/

     

     

     

    And our YouTube video:

     

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgVXU1L0UU

     

     

     

    And what's going on in Mount Shasta:

     

    http://visitmtshasta.com/

  • mlbmaine Senior Contributor 948 posts since
    Mar 2, 2012
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    52. Mar 4, 2012 7:33 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I also received a reservation request this week from a "Lera Kxxxxxx" from Kiev, Ukraine that had the identical wording.  There was nothing in the original VRBO inquiry to indicate that it was not legitimate.   When I receive a reservation inquiry, I do an internet search for the name and check the phone number before responding.  The phone number given had a vaIid US area code for the Columbus, Ohio area.  I  became suspicious, however, when I could find nothing on the internet for anyone by this name.  When I tried to call the number, it was not valid.  I have had inquiries, however, with typos so I didn't rule out that possibility. I responded by e-mail to the inquiry and told them that the date they wanted was not available (surprise - they had not bothered to look at my calendar).  There were a few e-mails back and forth about dates.  I told them that I needed a valid phone number because there was a problem with the one they had provided in the initial VRBO inquiry and I wanted to talk with them on the phone.  They ignored my request for a phone number and sent the stock reservation request that others have received.  I e-mailed back that the house was not available.

     

    So, beware, these scam attempts are still being made - they are just using different names and addresses. 

  • New Member 2 posts since
    Mar 8, 2012
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    53. Mar 8, 2012 8:16 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    They're still alive and active.  Just got one today. 

     

    Molenburg Huligan

    171 Tanuma Yulia

    Odessa, Ukraine 65000

     

    I thought something was fishy, but didn't really put it all together until I tried to verify their address existed.  And, then, magickally, this scam thread came through on the google search.  Just goes to show - trust your instincts.

     

    --Jamie

  • New Member 2 posts since
    Mar 4, 2012
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    54. Mar 9, 2012 4:53 AM (in response to jamieflorida)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I got the exact same one last week! Same name and address!

     

    Sent from my iPhone

  • New Member 1 posts since
    Mar 18, 2012
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    55. Mar 18, 2012 8:35 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I got this...I told them I'd be happy to confim once they filled out a  full credit and background check along with payment in full.

     

    ..never heard back...what a suprise...

     

  • New Member 3 posts since
    Feb 15, 2012
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    56. Mar 18, 2012 9:14 PM (in response to pap)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Thanks for sharing your experience!

     

     

     

    Lela and Steve

     

     

     

    Check out our website:

     

     

     

    http://houseofbassandlilies.com <http://houseofbassandlilies.com/>

     

     

     

    And for weather conditions:

     

     

     

    http://www.snowcrest.net/camera/

     

     

     

    And our YouTube video:

     

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgVXU1L0UU

     

     

     

    And what's going on in Mount Shasta:

     

    http://visitmtshasta.com/

  • marilyn Active Contributor 459 posts since
    Nov 9, 2011
    Currently Being Moderated
    57. Mar 18, 2012 9:24 PM (in response to pap)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    I think that if we were all to band together and give the same answer, exactly the same one, perhaps they would all get the message that we are all together in fighting this. Perhaps if we were to ask for the very same credit check such as "we request a full credit check". just an idea!

  • lorraine.mcgill Contributor 30 posts since
    Feb 24, 2011
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    58. Apr 10, 2012 3:02 PM (in response to tyro1)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    New one from Nyuta BXXXXXXXXXXa at to add to your watch-list.

     

    They inquired about both my properties (which isn't uncommon) but sent a response back accepting the quote for both of them. How can you stay at both my houses at the same time? Idiots.

  • marilyn Active Contributor 459 posts since
    Nov 9, 2011
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    59. Apr 10, 2012 11:07 AM (in response to lorraine.mcgill)
    Re: Scam from the Ukraine?

    Doesn't matter what the email address is. They change email addresses like one changes their socks.

     

    Scam artists are hedging their bets that you will respond to one or both. They probably assume we as home owners are so busy, we don't remember one inquiry from the next.

     

    I think we can use some sort of filtration system that targets this sort of inquiry. Perhaps all foreign inquiries should have a yellow border around them so that we are more aware that we are deealing with out of country inquiries.

     

    Marilyn

    www.hamptonhouseproperties.info

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